Fraud Prevention from Yagya Websites

Several people have reported that some websites are doing frauds on the name of Yagya. We are aware of it and are preparing together with other institutions / organizations for legal remedies against the people who are fishing or somehow copying us or folling the massa. Still in the interest of our members and visitors, we publish here some tips and ideas how to prevent frauds and lossing a lot of money. Based upon the informations on the respective websites, we suspect many websites not to be existing, genuine, enogh qualified or secured for an expensive event as Yagyas.. Seems these people are fishing the foreigners thinking that people who live out of India have no knowledge of Hindu scriptures and can be easily ripped off. But our expenriences say that people living outside India are often smarter and careful people and have more or less idea about Veda, Vedic Astrology and Yagya. So one can't just sell anything to our societies out of india on the name of Yagya.  The basic symptoms of these people are that they will try to sell anything to you and shall be agree on any amount. As they have no investment and no performance, whatever comes is profit. However, it is not a conclusion and we may not be always correct but at least we suspect these people and intend to investigate them further. Hereby, we advise our members and visitors to take every step very carefully as any wrong step not only can cause you a lot of lossesand legal complications but also can cause reverse effects of Yagya if performed by un-qualified people in wrong ways. In the following table we point out some symptoms of fishing websites and our actions to ensure your security with us.

VED BHAWAN INT.

Ved Bhawan is a registered organization or company in different countries including India.
It doesn't use child labors. Helps in child education specially for Vedic Studies
Preserves and pormotes Vedic Education and incourages Vedic Scholars / Discourages fake Pandits / Astrologers
Helps people worldwide with different Vedic Services and Yagyas
The only organization that does Yagya for Indians and foreigners both.
You pay Ved Bhawan in Europe and America - So no risk of money
Yagya are done by scholars. We have legitimated scholars of Astrology and Veda.
We never do Yagya for negative purposes and we never use blackmagic.
By Ved Bhawan you can interact with our astrologers and Pandits in your city when they visit.
You can also visit your Yagya in India, if you wish to.
Ved Bhawan helps you paying Yagya even in terms.
Ved Bhawan guanrantees to do Yagya 25% cheaper than anyone else.
Ved Bhawan leaves no reason for you to look for an alternative.
Wise people come back to Ved Bhawan after learning from others. Wiser people come to us first and stay with us.

JYOTISH-YAGYA.COM

The website of D.S. Dixit and Mr. / Mrs. Hunner. Based in Kanpur, UP, India. In Paypal account a telephone number of the USA is provided.
The prices have been quoted blindly without providing any content. For example, they ask USD 1550/ for a Planetary Yagya while they do small mantras (not vedic ones) of planets because they chant 10000 mantra per day. Vedic Mantra you can't chant more than 4000 in a day in 6-7 hours per day.
Moreover, a Puja is a job of maximum 3 hours and USD 1300/ is too much for this. The website doesn't say over Japa quanitity (recommended by Veda) 125000 for serious cases. Their maximum quanity remains 51000/ for which in India Pandits get maximum Rs. 5000/ (USD 100). At least we don't take more than this. Most of the puja's given on the website are the jobs for 1-3 hours and Pandits in India get Rs 101 to 500/ (USD 10) for these.
The articles and the materials don't seem to be specific and authentic.
In the photo's less pandits and more 'people' are seen. No name and / or qualifications of the pandits or anyone indicated.
The author says, according to his pandit, you sometimes need to wait for whole life for getting results of Yagya.
Children are used for Yagyas. Children do not have education of Veda and learning some mantra doesn't make a Pandit. And how can a child help you unless he doen't understand himself what he is doing and for what purpose.

"Child Labors, money laundering, tax-theft, organisation only on paper and illegal income"  - Do you still think they are spiritual and religious ?
Do you still earn good karma by sponsoring evil actions ?
Get to Ved Bhawan - We are legal, professional, real and of course international !

 
VEDIC.BY-CHOICE.COM

No person or contact detail (address) is available on this website.
The small things / pujas or black magical (Tantric) things are offered for high prices
These people seem to offer negeative tantrik rituals that can be dangerously harmful for the costomer and performer.
No specific information are found over Veda or Yagya however advertising has been prefered.
People seem to have collect statements of newspapers and media to incash them but not anymore successful in last 6 years
There is an invesitgation going on for misleading public on the name of celebrities.
Has nothing to do with Unesco, nor participated in that Vedic chant. See the website and picture of Unesco, it says about Indira Gandhi National Center of Arts and not about Vedic By Choice. Again misuse of big names for misleading people. However the language has been changed after our critics and now double meaning or confusing  statements are made.on website.

VEDICYAGYAFOUNDATION.ORG

Vedic Yagya Foundation is a home operated organisation not even on paper by Vachaspati Mishra. Mishra seem to have worked in Latvia through Maharishi and now lives in Varanasi. Mishra once contacted (in 2005) Ved Bhawan for being a partner but it didn't work. Then he started copying us. First copied our name - Vedic Yagya and made Vedic Yagya Foundation. Then our 2003 slogen - Let noble thought.. "
Afterwards many things have been copied except the exellence of performance.
Organization is not registered. Home address has been given on the website. Not connected to any temple.
One competitor of Mishra's house puts photos on its website - www.vedicygayafoundation.com/vyorg.aspx.
Prices are not given on the website. Now a days started to register Ved Bhawan's or Maharishi's ressembling domains.
Many chat logo's on the website but none working. Shows false seal of SSL what doesn't work - https://www.vedicyagyafoundation.org
The photo's of this website are shared by at least 2 more websites not belonging to Mishra.

Astropandit.com or Satish Joshi from Ujjain Fraud Alert !

We recently noticed that the biggest fraud on the name of Astrology, Vedic Yagya, Vedic Pandits is done by Satish Joshi from Ujjain via Facebook and via his website - astropandit.com. This gentleman - a relieved astrologer of Maharishi movement is in full form of being Maharishi without knowledge, achievement or any assets. He operates  from a 3m x 3m room in small town Ujjain, MP, India. He calles his astropandit an organization but sometimes also a university (it is criminal to mislead public by using word "university". He claims  that 1500 Pandits are doing Yagya daily while the neighbours say they didn't see even 10 Pandits. The small town Ujjain has hardly 300 Pandits. How can he manage 1500 Pandits ? He asks money for a Yagya like $6500, $25000 and even $75000 see here e . It is ridiculus of those people who get so easily fooled. If you can afford $75000 to pay him then you can also afford $1000 to go to India and check yourself if you can find 1500 people together.  He is very active on facebook to fool people and get rich overnight by collecting donations. Anyway, government agencies have been recently involved to make investigations under Indian Penal Code (IPC) 420, 421 and money laundering.

OTHERS

Vedicyagya.net is website of Michael Büttke, Bad Ems, Germany. Neither an Astrologer nor a Pandit. Was a happy client of Ved Bhawan but later begun with own website resembling to ours - vedicyagya.net. Not only this, Copied our Yagya list and Yagya code literally. We served notice of misleading and levied a fine of Eur 3000. Fine is yet due however Yagya List has been removed. Has contact with Vachaspati Mishra (vedic yagya foundation) and vedic.by-choice. Website shows child labour serving.

Jyotishyagyaonline.com is a website of Satish Awasthi, an Astrologer. Copied photographs of ours and our Yagya List. Police Complaint has been made and further investigation is going on. We have put a fine of $5000 to be paid before 30.11.2009. The website has been taken offline.

Yagya-Mantra.com is a website of Umesh Shukla. Uses TM sign without having any registration or trademark right. First wrote the name resembling to ours - Vedic Jyotish and Vedic Yagya Foundation. We served copyright infrigment notice then made Jyotish & Yagya Foundation. Has a registration of a shop under Uttar Pradesh Government thus neither an organization nor recognized by Government of India. In fact Gov't of India doen't give recognition to such shop or organisation.
Again the companies and societies are registered on state level and not on country level.

Indiamart.com/acharyamaheshvashishtha is website of Mahesh Vashishth. Had stolen our pictures and put on website. A police case is registered with the Commissoner of Police, Gurgaon. Aplogized and removed the photo. The fine $5500 expected to be paid.

Ramdham Sewashram Trust - Seems to be an organisation of thieves. Copied our articles and Yagya List. Msny times notified. Apolozies but again steals our stuffs. Looks like everyone in this organization is shameless thief. Recently complaint to Police of Kota - Rajasthan and moving towards court for collecting a damage of $110,000.

Vedic-yagya.biz - Yet an another person that duplicates us. Ganesh (astrosalon.com) is neither an astrologer nor a Pandit. Lives in Australia and earns from Yagya. Was not able to speak even 1 mantra on the telephone when we talked. Has many photo's of the Pandits on the website without giving any qualification. Has registered a resembling website of ours -
vedic-yagya.biz. Notice served . Police investigation is going on.

 
Tips to Prevent Frauds from Yagya Websites

Ask complete details and contents of Yagya, the reference of Mantras and the names of Pandits with their academic qualifications. Mostly un-qualified people say by default that they are traditionally educated or some will say their 10 to 40 generations are pandits. Actually there is no other education system in India other than schoold / colleges. The tradition of Guru & Gurukul is a history of at least 60 years ago.


A socially recognisable education is only at the school-colleges and for Veda it is at  Sanskrit Colleges governed by UGC or Indian Government. There are more than 5000 schools and colleges in whole India specialized for Sanskrit and Vedic Studies. There are 7 Sanskrit Universities and more than other 20 general universities those offer Sanskrit or Vedic Astrology Post-Graduate Educations.
So if someone says that he has learnt traditionally it means he has no education. It is sophisticated method to say - "I am not schooled"
 

There are several other fraud organizations those do not really exist and sell duplicate degrees or diploma's which are not recognized by the government agencies. Several people are behind the bars in this offence.

Some will say they are the highly educated pandits. A Pandit who has highest education puts his digree after his name, unless he is not fake. For example -
Dr. Bhagwat Thakur, Jyotish Acharya, Ph.D.
If someone puts Pt. before his name then it just a salutation like Mr. and Mrs. and not a title.


Have you seen child doctor, child lawyer or a child teacher? How can a child heal you then without any education ? You are being sophistically fooled. Stop spoiling child-life !
 

Some people will say they are the highest Brahmins. In fact, all the brahmins are technically same.

Never pay in advance, check and get satisfied and then make a partial advance payment as in case of fraud, you will have no chance to get your money back and find the person out after paying your money. Indian banks and western union has no policy to send money out of India. So you can send money to India but you can never get them back if you need to.

Ask their address where you can send your reprensentative

Phone them and talk with them at least 3 times more than 10 minutes


Have you ever thought if a person gets your money and doesn't do anything or doesn't repond at all ? What will you do then ? Finding a person in India is mostly impossible and sueing him on a weak ground is yet the hard task. Why don't you join Ved Bhawan which is in Europe, in America where consumers are protected by the laws and where the laws really work.
 

Ask them several relevant questions and request urgent reply. In most cases you will not get proper, prompt and correct reply as they will collect answers from other people to pass you or they will get irritated. People who don't have own Yagya resources, shall always press you to make payment before they wish to answer.

Request them to arrange a mantra listening from Yagya place over telephone and talk with every pandit. Do not give them time to manage only listening for you. Check them suddenly.

Ved Bhawan can help you in all manners including manpower to verify the informations and Genuinity at a nominal service charge of $10/ and anywhere in the world.
 
 

You may want to know

Some Yagya People use child labor to earn money. Exactly like in whole world, it is also prohibited in India with a punishment up to 7 years cel. This crime is done on your sponsorship (if minor Pandits are working for you) and you are not spared from it. The websites those use child labour are - jyotish-yagya.com, Maharishi, Vedicyagya.net, vedic.by-choice.com

You can't say that children are learning or the children are praying. The Yagya is paid and thus the children are hired to earn money.

Like Astrology, Yagya is also a commercial practice. A non-profit organization needs explicit registration with the government of India and needs income tax exemption. Any Yagya organization prescribing and/or getting certain amount even as donation according to the Indian Laws, is commerce and is taxable.

Indian people and banks need a special permit from Reserve Bank of India, called FERA to receive an amount from foreign residents. Violating these rules is called money laundering and it risks the sender and receipient both a punishment of up to 5 years non-cognible jail.  

No bank or Western Union is allowed to receive amounts for clients for business purposes. Government agencies always monitor for these activities in case if a business transactions are made in name of personal transactions.  

Western Union can only receive money in India but is not allowed to send money from India.

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The views given here are based upon received complaints and the opinion of the auther after studying respective websites, and these consitute no legal rights or responsibilities. The owner or any associate of our group or wenbsite is not bound to agree with the author nore are we bound with any responsibility.


Disclaimer:-
Ved Bhawan puts security guidelines on the websites for its members and visitors and for those who refer our sites for reliable informations. The security concerns of the massa is most important to us. By these pages Ved Bhawan any how doen't intend to hurt or disgrace a person or organization. We do not intend to mislead clients of anyone or to grab those clients. The only meaning is to make the public aware where they could be stuck. As a service provider one is obliged to take care of several technical issues in favour of innocent and un-aware clients. A registered organization, a techinically secured website, data encrypted communication, legitmacy and providing contact details and address, providing Tax and registration numbers are at this time very important and are common practice in each sector. Your qualifications, your schedule of charges and the services you provide need to be transparent. Unfortunately, many people in Yagya sector don't qualify on these norms therefore we categorize them as non-secured. Taking name of a person or a website or organization, doen't necessarily mean that they are fraud but we intend to make people aware that there is risk of coming across surprises and they need to exercise precautions while dealing with that website and people.

To categorize a website or a person we collect the informations from the websites what has been made available in public and what we consider to be necessary in public. It is possible that someone has an address but tries to hide his address, then we count it non-reliable. Reliable people legitimate themselves proudly. We update the pages and correct your informations too once it is updated or corrected on your websites. If you still find something what is not correct, you can contact us through email or through registered post. In this case please do right on your letterhead or give your full name address, registration number of your company with address of your regitered office and specify your designation providing copy of a government issued ID. Do not forget to add an evidence for your claim. Upon arrival of your documents we will verify the informations and if needed, we will update them too. Please keep in mind, we don't reply people who are not legitimated nor we entertain their requests. These matters are also not entertained on telephones.

Ved Bhawan always takes a snapshot of the details and informations over what we write here. These snapshots can be made available to the authorities or courts on their official demands without any fee, To the public we could provide it against an administration fee of US$200 however we reserve our rights to provide such documents or to refuse that. Ved Bhawan doesn't want to earn with these documents but to prevent misuse and un-neccessary time-waste we need to impose these fee.

We live in democracy and we have freedom to compare services of competitors fairly. We are used to compare several services and point out our best quality that is not offered by others. At the same time we can also point out your weakness to promote our products in stead. Every service provider has right to do that so long he remains in healthy comparison possessing grounds and evidences. However many people in India have no tolerance for critics and react aggressive. In this case strict remedial measures are taken by us. Nonetheless a polite and convincing objection shall be always considered. One may also try to revert in aggression and put a false blame on us. In this situations Ved Bhawan hereby notifies you that each aggessive reaction / statement or false blame is prosecuted by us and a mimimum populairty damage claim of USD 50,000 is made. Besides this, we always register a FIR in the police at your reason as well as by intrnational authorities. Apart from it, we invlove the taxing and government authorities in each case. We suggest and warn these people that Ved Bhawan doesn't spare blamers, misleaders, and pyrators. So neither we put something groundless nor we tolerate anything groundless. For more details please check our terms and condition. All disputes are subject to London, UK Jurisdiction.

 

 

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